importance of being sincere
you guys above speak too much common sense! will fall on deaf ears!
calling a spade a spade, we should we ashamed with ourselves they way she is still continues to be treated and "managed" by the system....could be anyone of us...
dont worry guys, after Brexit we will get £5,000,000 a week for the NHS.
All will be well, just be patient when you voted last time...
what we should ask is how as a profession we have lost our self respect to be treated like this!
the Politicians arent stupid, they have to balance the books. They know that better health care costs money, but they haven't the money.
So here we are, its us who dont push back....the patients expect a lot because we arent maent to temper their expectations, otherwise NHS England/GMC would be after us. go figure.....
meanwhile eltlets not complain about our rate of pay less than an OOH plumber.
GEN-Prexit- 100% spot on
With respect many here have the wrong end of the stick, 15 minutes in EHS allows one to both enjoy medicine, take a better history/listen better,etc!
As it should be.
So yes extended hours deserve the rate they get, and perhaps more, but its the partners who then should lobby for better pay!
consider this,plumber rate OOH £100/hr
Alas, sometimes i despair for the fraternity when you cant see the woods for the trees! Do you think one may suffer from the Stockholm syndrome?
common guys, whats wrong with yous?
Whey are we fighting with our respected fellow colleagues.
is it, should it, be any surprise when all this was foreseeable by the government own admissions of austerity cuts in the public sector and in the NHS as we already know.
Also, we have one of the the lowest,if not the lowest,level of GDP contribution to heath amongst most European industrialized nations
Really, do we need reminding of this!
but we knew all this for at least 10 years!.
Nothing changes...i guess
i dont see why we are complaining about pay, we should celebrate that we take home less than a plumber per hour and also are subject to uber regulation, multiple jeopardy, should we make mistakes which in this job is common not least because we deal with uncertainty!
meanwhile, i have 10 minutes to consult....and write it all up properly as per GMC guidelines... how high shall i jump Sir?
I suspect most of us would agree with you, and what you've written.
Meanwhile, back on planet Earth, plumbers i know wouldn't wake up for less than £150/hr in out of hours work....
how about dealing with the elephant in the room: we are here because of austerity cuts over the past 7 years to the public sector as admitted to officially-as if it needed proof!
I am afraid you talk about it all very passively,i would expect you all to be very very unhappy about the one sided NHSE response.
We are currently just dissatisfied, that is the problem...you folks still dont get it do you?
This is what happens when as a profession we have come to tolerate the 10 minute consultation time frame.
Which professional gives a client 10 minutes, and also gets paid less than a plumber per hour.
Its all our fault.
meanwhile in GP land, we have 10 minutes to take a history, examine, share management, discuss side effects, fill out blood forms, and document everything as per GMC guidelines.
Is that not called living a lie, that surely should affect public confidence in the profession-if they but knew.
we get 10 minutes per patient--- any wonder we can frequently trip up--- a complaint ensues against said dr who took 10 years to train,but realises he/she works in dysfunctional systems--- cannot reconcile his training with unreasonable system constraints-- harms self, especially when we are mostly perfectionists.
Not rocket science, but then we all knew that!
surely we are to blame for foreseeing all this, and where we have reached with allowing those who sit in ivory towers to tell us do to impossible things in 10 minutes!
Question is do we have insight to believe that we have gotten to where we are because we have passively allowed to happen to us?
The first stage to remediation is insight and acceptance.
we saw this coming, but we choose to bury our heads in the sand and work on hoping it will all go away.
A plumbers take home pay per hour is often more than ours, and they have no extortionate MDO fees to pay, we should all reflect on that in our next years PDP.
Often we do deserve what we get.