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Anonymous | 19 March 2014 2:40pm With reference to comment @ 8.32, all medical trainees have gone through various exams in their career and no one expects to pass a exam by default as mentioned !! we all know that. but what is grossly apparent is very high fail rate for IMGs. No other Royal college would let their trainees leave the speciality after going through the whole couple of years training. They are stopped very early in their training at the SHO level if they do not show the competencies, exams etc. And also if trainees from other specialities who cannot pass their royal college exams can still practice as Staff grade, in other grades and contribute to NHS. Its only RCGP which has structured its training in such a way that if one cannot pass the exams right at the end of training, they you have to leave the speciality with no chance of practicing as a GP again. This is the reason why such a high pass rate for IMG's is so distressing. We all know as we have experienced in various other specialities that they are clinically competent and only because of slight accent and not a perfect grammar, I feel they have such a high fail rate. But does this really matter to the pts ?, I feel not. RCGP should have known this much earlier that IMGs are usually clinically competent and they need early and more extensive exposure to GP land. Anonymous | 20 March 2014 1:13am 'They are stopped very early in their training at the SHO level if they do not show the competencies, exams etc.' ST1-3 is early in training, you are usually just out of Foundation training. It is not like reaching ST7 in surgery after CT posts, then being turned away. Yes the IMG pass rate is not as high as other groups. However most IMG trainees who work hard will pass - stop blaming others for failing. If you are good enough you will pass, as most VTS trainees eventually do. Our local pass rate is in the high 90% range. If you don't pass, use the experienced gained to make you a better doctor in another field where you willing hopefully prosper with your enhanced skills. Anonymous | 20 March 2014 9:39am GP training is 3 years, so essentially ST1 - ST3 GP training is equivalent to ST1 - ST7 training in other specialities. So ST1 - 3 is not early in training, its the whole GP training after which trainees are turned away if they do not get their exams at the end of training. In my experience other Royal college for example RCoA has MRCA, FRCA early in training around ST3-4.And even if trainees cannot pass this exams, they lose their National training number but still they can practice as anesthetist, be it staff grade, clinical fellow, associalist specialist etc. So essentially all the public money spent in training is not lost. While with GP training, once you leave GP training by not passing exams etc, then essentially you cannot practice as a GP anymore. So all the efforts put in, all the public money spent is wasted. And if you look at figures ' IMG pass rate is not as high as other groups ' - it is actually IMG fail rate is very high as compared to other groups. And please all IMG trainees work hard like any other trainee. No one is blaming others, these are just the facts. I am sure IMGs trainees will prosper elsewhere but at the loss of a GP career.

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