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'Average GP earnings' at prominent GP's practice is £23k per year

The practice of Family Doctor Association chairman Dr Peter Swinyard has revealed that their mean GP earnings are only £22,884 per annum, according to the calculations set out by NHS England.

The website of the Phoenix surgery in Swindon adds this this is much less than a train driver, who ‘according to a Government website… would earn from £35,000-£60,000 per year.’

Dr Swinyard told Pulse that this number reflects the fact that ‘the amount of money coming into the practice is not enough to sustain the service we’re providing.’

GPs have had to publish their earnings since the end of March as a requirement of the 2015/16 contract.

Earnings are calculated based on contractual income from NHS England, CCGs and local authorities divided by the number of GPs working full- or part-time in the practice. 

Dr Swinyard suspects that many other practices will have found similarly low mean GP earnings, ‘if their accountants work them out for them in the correct way’.

‘If I hadn’t cashed in my NHS pension, I wouldn’t be able to survive on what the practice is making just now… And I haven’t actually been paid this year at all, there is no money, I have been living on my pension and my savings,’ Dr Swinyard added.

The Phoenix surgery website notes that ‘the prescribed method for calculating earnings is potentially misleading because it takes no account of how much time doctors spend working in the practice, and should not be used to form any judgement about GP earnings, nor to make any comparison with any other practice.’

Readers' comments (23)

  • This guy should work for Mossack-Fonseca.

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  • Get someone to sort the practice out

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  • why are they still in that partnership?

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  • Unbelievable.

    We're in April and Dr Swinyard claims he hasn't been paid this year???

    What the hell is going on here??? this doesn't make sense...it cant make sense....???


    How can this be possible without administrative incompetence?

    comments??

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  • well I can believe it. I take home less now than I did 10 years ago, and I'm still on the computer at 00:30 looking through my Docman for today as I was 'duty doctor' today with 80 patient contacts and had no time for my own admin. If the docs all work 6 sessions and they have a number of registrars, and other docs in training its quite possible that the average remuneration is so poor. Don't see the media, patients or anyone else remotely interested in these published figures as doesn't make good story, Daily Mail prefers fat cat 100K docs, not the reality of s*** street state of GP in Hunt's NHS

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  • Does Dr Swinyard have any dignity?

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  • A few thoughts -

    The declaration on Dr Swinyard's website seems incomplete as it does not state how many full time, part time etc.

    If indeed Dr Swinyard has not been paid this year and is relying on pension and savings then he has my total and heartfelt sympathy. However if things have got that bad it is long overdue that you close the doors and face up to the fact that the business is dead. Not only should you never use personal funds to subsidise the NHS, you betray the whole GP community by hiding the true extent of the crisis from the public. So if the practice is not making any money for its owners, close it immediately.

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  • My accountant has worked out earnings according to the bizzare government guidelines around partners and salaried doctors and the result underestimates my income from my practice by over 50 k.In effect the figures are meaningless for which i am happy as i consider this an invasion of my privacy ,however suggesting that these levels of earnings are realistic is not helpful to GP recruitment and from a patients point of view looks like deliberate disinformation (but then polititians are experts in that field !)

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  • @10:31 "The declaration on Dr Swinyard's website seems incomplete as it does not state how many full time, part time etc."

    Publishing information on working hours isn't mandatory, though. And while the figures are entirely meaningless without these figures, I don't have any great faith that they would be particularly meaningful even if such information was included.

    So seems to me it is entirely up to the practice in question whether or not they prefer also to reveal data on working hours.

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  • It is profit per consultation that is crucial.
    We get 60 pounds profit per patient year. Average is 62 in NI.
    It is down 25% in 11 years from 80. Consultation has gone up from 3.76 to 6.18.
    So, 80/4 = 20, 60/6 = 10. That is a 50% pay cut. That is why we SHOULD/MUST resign from Mr Hunt's penance. Factor in 40% paper work and profit per consult is 6. Take home is 3.
    Don't ask about dignity. We GPs, and sadly our GPC have none. They have gongs, though.
    Reminds me of Nero.
    I just think this system so foul, I cannot wait for it to collapse.
    The only reason some GPs are still there is redundancy payments to staff may bankrupt them.
    Peverley, Copperfield, Nazi all cannot be wrong when the picture they paint is so awful.
    And it is. Maureen may say what she wishes, but a 50% paycut is not the best time to be a GP.

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  • Sorry Nabi.

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  • If they are smart they are pushing it out as rent (avoiding the declaration) to their own ltd company and dividending it to themselves at a lower tax rate.

    It could, of course, be true, or much less than they really receive in pay.

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  • "Anonymous | Sessional/Locum GP08 Apr 2016 11:57am

    @10:31 "The declaration on Dr Swinyard's website seems incomplete as it does not state how many full time, part time etc."

    Publishing information on working hours isn't mandatory, though. And while the figures are entirely meaningless without these figures, I don't have any great faith that they would be particularly meaningful even if such information was included.

    So seems to me it is entirely up to the practice in question whether or not they prefer also to reveal data on working hours."


    The hours is not mandatory but the regulations require that the statement says how many full time and part-time GPs are included in the calculation and in that, Dr Swinyard's website does not comply

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  • The Payments to Phoenix surgery Swindon, as recorded on the NHS payments database total

    £1,334,277
    £123.70 per weighted patient.

    Four listed Doctors (including one salaried):
    http://www.phoenixsurgery.com/staff1.aspx

    Probably more like 140K/yr FTE, don't know how many sessions they are working.

    The whole thing is a non-sense anyway, and They are probably worth more than that.

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  • I do not agree that you should have to publish earnings. But the calculations used here have to be 'slightly' out. Can't have staff earning more than the GP's.

    When the accountants have finished with my accounts, I have no idea how much I have earned.

    My business is incorporated and I take £8,000 in salary. This must be my income then.

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  • Peter Swinyard

    With regard to |Anonymous | Medical student|08 Apr 2016 9:15am, yes I do have my dignity. I find your comment offensive.
    I have declared exactly what the government has told us to declare.
    FYI, I had been working 2 clinical days a week (4 sessions, my partner 3 days (6 sessions) and my 2 salaried doctors 4 sessions and 6 sessions a week. My partner is now leaving and one of the salaried doctors has reduced to 1 day a week from 2.
    I am having to come out of retirement and work full time. I founded this practice in 1995 and am not a quitter, even in tough times.
    I also have the practice premises which are owned by me along with the mortgage. They would be unsaleable without a viable practice occupying them and you cannot do a sale and leaseback if no-one will sign the lease.
    No, this is not a great situation. I think it sucks.
    The best option for the practice is probably to amalgamate with a large group of practices for the future - possibly to the detriment of patients' access to continuity of care.
    But our political masters care little for patients and even less for doctors. We are nearly 4 years from the next election, after all, and it is unlikely that "the most GP-friendly Secretary of State ever" (his words to me) will still be in office by then.

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  • Dr swinyard is doing it for love. No money

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  • Who gets the £1,333,000

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  • Publish tax return like pm

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  • All this bickering amongst GPs here playing into the NHSE plans to destroy you from the inside. Mindless inconsistent data that somehow the GPC seems is "transparent".

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  • The publication of earnings was agun to head agreement n 2014 to get the negs to walk out thus allowing NHSE to write off the BMA. I saw it coming and were ready. I had an apples with apples project running but it was sidelined. If you strip out the employers pension payments the cost rent payments dispensing profits and other things and work on a 40 hour week then GP principals are on between £55-65K
    Peter Holden GPC Neg Team 1999-2014

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  • Sorry to hear my colleagues have no dignity left. My supportive advise is not to let Jezza run you down so you'll either need counselling/antidepressants or go on some ridiculous course to give yourself the illusion it is still good.... Locums or emigrate.Keep your dignity.

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  • These salary figures are really strange, one doctor I know says he can only afford to buy an Audi TT once every 8 months so nothing seems to add up!!! How much do doctors really get?!!

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