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PM: ‘The whole health profession is now on board’

By Ellie Broughton | 26 Aug 2011

The entire health profession is behind the Government's reforms for the NHS after the modifications made following the 'listening exercise', the prime minister David Cameron has claimed.

In comments that have been dismissed by GP leaders, the prime minister said he'd heard a ‘massive message' during the listening exercise that the NHS reforms should continue.

 

The comments came just a day after Unison demanded an ‘immediate halt' to the Health and Social Care Bill's progress through Parliament.

According to thisiscornwall.co.uk, during a visit to the hospital in Cornwall where his daughter was born Mr Cameron told hospital workers: ‘It is going to be doctors and GPs and nurses having much more control over the health service, clinically-led commissioning, much more integrated care but also more choice for patients.'

‘That is what the health professionals told us they wanted out of the reforms, that is what we're now delivering and I feel that the whole health profession is on board for what is now being done. NHS hospitals are not about making profits they are about serving patients.'

GPC chair Dr Laurence Buckman expressed surprise at Mr Cameron's claims.

He told Pulse: ‘There are bits in the health bill that look like a good idea – but there's so much that doesn't look like a good idea. To amend the bill as the BMA hopes to do, is going to be so difficult it would be better if they started again.'

‘The health unions are all against it, and if you add up the nurses and health workers, GPs from the College and GPC, and doctors the BMA, I'm not sure who Cameron thinks is enthusiastic about it.'

Dr Buckman felt it was important to distinguish between the health bill, and GP commissioning: ‘If you ask GPs are you interested in commissioning, I think they'd say yes. But if you ask if they want the health bill, I think from what I've listened, they'd say no.'

‘People who are interested in GP commissioning have been doing it for years, and they don't need a health bill to do it'.

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Vinci Ho, GP Partner,
26 Aug 2011
See I did say Darth Vader was a tracherous , deceptive , dishonest bas**rd.
Well , he is also shameless and disillusioned,......
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Anonymous, GP Partner,
27 Aug 2011
Mr Cameron you are totally disconnected with the profession and unions.You perhapes listen to likes of Prof Steve Field only.
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Marie-Louise Irvine, GP Partner,
28 Aug 2011
All the polls of doctors including the recent RCGP poll of GPs, and the motions passed at BMA conference, show that a majority of doctors do not support the health and social care bill. Cameron must know this so why is he claiming that the profession supports the bill? This shows just how much the government needs medical support for the bill and how much they fear and are hurt by the profession's opposition. They tried to manufacture the appearance of medical support with the PR stunt of the "listening exercise" with a selected group dominated by pro-reform enthusiasts like the sycophantic Steve Field, which changed nothing except words and helped to further obscure the true intentions of the bill. Fortunately the profession was not duped by this, but the public may have been confused. We need to counter Camerons' assertions that doctors support the bill. The BMA needs to make good its promise to mount a public campaign against the bill. So far there is little sign of it. If all the forces lined up against this bill acted in a vigorous and co-ordinated public campaign it would not stand a chance.
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Anonymous, Other healthcare professional,
29 Aug 2011
What a plonker - he couldn't even qualify to go on a course to run p**s-ups in breweries!
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Anonymous, PCT,
30 Aug 2011
Listening? He doesn't know the meaning of the word!
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Jane Lothian, GP Partner,
30 Aug 2011
This rather does seem to suggest that it is useless to protest?
Please Mr Cameron, you are welcome to come to my practice any day and see what people who are ill really need - a good well resourced accessible local service. Choice and competition are fine for those that have enough privilege to be able to exercise such - for many folk they want treatment as close as possible to home by people they trust.
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John M. Orchard, GP Partner,
30 Aug 2011
What A load of Wingers, are any of the above prepared to say we were better off bullied , belitled and dictated too by Gordon Brown and Tony Blair? I have had more useful positive contact with my fellow GPs in the past 13 months than the previous 13 years. Secondary care is listening. PCT managers want to be helpful or those that don't have left. Things get done that have been ignored for years. The financial constraints are the result of Gordon's Folly and Banker's ineptitude and yes we all have to make difficult choices, but at least we are involved.
I suspect if we reject the health bill we will get more dictats and less influence maybe even the Holy (Labour) Grail of complete salaried service.
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Anonymous, Midwife,
30 Aug 2011
What a load of twaddle! He, may have spoken to a few yes men/women somewhere in the NHS, but I certainly don't know anyone whose opinion was asked.
As far as I can see we are bullied, belittled and dictated to no matter who is in Government.
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Marie-Louise Irvine, GP Partner,
30 Aug 2011
John, I have been a GP in an inner city practice for the 18 years. In the 13 years of the Labour Government I saw waiting times for out patients significantly drop; there were no more patients lying in trolleys in A+E for 12 hours; there were new services such as counselling , stop smoking services, exercise on referral, Sure Start and many other services that really helped my patients and are now under threat. Yes, there were things I was vehemently opposed to like PFI, Darzi centres, the use of private consultancies like KPMG, the privatization of services including GP practices, the roll out of Foundation Hospitals - but many of these were also Tory policy and have been continued by the Tory/Lib Dem coalition. I know it was annoying to be micro-managed by PCT managers but I fear even more the level of micromanaging of my clinical decisions under the new regime of commissioning consortia. And the fact that this will be done by other GPs gives me no comfort. Furthermore each CCG will have so much regulation and oversight that I don't think there will be any freedom at all. The requirements on Monitor, the Co-operation and Competition Panel and the NHS commissioning board to promote competition/ challenge anti-competitive behaviour, all within European competition law means that companies will be challenging commissioning decisions under competition law any time they don't get a contract (the big ones have the money and the lawyers to do this easily). I fear this will mean that CCGs will be spending most of their time, money and effort making sure they don't fall foul of this. I think the regime under Labour was bad - but this will be ten times worse!
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Anonymous, Other healthcare professional,
02 Sep 2011
Are the 'voices' also telling him this is a pigs ear of a health act and to give it all up as a bad job and bow out gracefully, taking Mr Languish, and his men in green tights with him .... No? I thought not - what a delusional t*ss p*t!
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